The story of the Donner party changed the view of Western Expansion in many ways. The Donner party's experience made people who were going to make the travel out West to think twice. If any people from here on after the Donner Party's story was out every group would no longer be taking Hastings route. There would no longer be any cut-offs taken by anyone. Travelers started to pre pair for more harsh conditions even taking the normal route. The story of the Donner party changed peoples thoughts and decisions of moving west.
The story of the Donner party struck down the myth of frontier idealism by their graphic story. The Donner party was a group of people that set out to go west and decided to take a short cut through the hasting cutoff. Most groups that past through had no problem however the Donner party did. They went through with no escort and wagon witch was not a very good idea. The Donner party ended up getting stuck in the mountains for four months from the end of fall to the beginning of March. While they were there they starved and they had to eat their own people when they died. This whole incident crushed the idea of idealism from going west.
The story of the Donner Party help strike down the myth of Frontier Idealism by the fact that their journey did not turn out the way they planned. They wanted to move westward to live a better life, even though it would take them four months to get there. The Westward Expansion was supposed to have better land, gold, and help them live better lives. The Donner Party faced many hard times threw their journey west. The Donner Party had to take a long four months to get west, and there long four months turned into a yearlong journey. They decided to take a different rout called Hasting cutoff, which was not a smart plan because it added about two hundred miles onto there trip and they got stuck up in the mountains because of snow. It was a cold, they ran out of food and people were dying. As people who were alive would feed off the dead. Many people on the trip went insane. After a long year rescue parties came and got the Donner Party out, but many had not survived.
The story of the Donner Party helped strike down the myth of Frontier Idealism. The Frontier Idealism was not ideal at all. It ended up being the worst mistake that they made. It was a rough terrain and a struggle. The so called short cut ended up being longer than the original route that they would have taken. They didn't pack enough food for the long trip considering they thought that it would be shorter. This was not ideal at all! ~ Taylor Gang ~
the Donner party was a very unique western expansion journey. They were ignorant enough to go the short cut route instead of the wrong one. The idea of western frontier idealism was shut down as soon as everyone heard about the Donner party. It did for a couple of ways. The myth of frontier idealism is like the perfect place to live. The donner party made it not like the perfect place at all. The donner party killed eachother had to live in harsh conditions and lived in freezing cold temperatures. The winters were cold and the summers were sizzling. That is why it was a bad desicion to live out west.
In the dawn of April, 1946 the Donner Party ventured out of there hometown in Illinois to join the popular movement in the Westward Expansion. Word of a fresh start of a new life was spreading like wild fire through out America, and nobody wanted to miss this opportunity. The idea of packing everything up and moving your family to California was both bold and exhilarating, it seemed almost too good to be true. The story of the Donner Party helped strike down the myth of frontier idealism. Many had planned for this journey to be dangerous and risky, but no one could ever imagine the hardship the Donner Party had to endure to reach California. After a member of the Donner Party sent for help, newspapers published stories on the families stranded out in the Hastings Cutoff. When the few members of the party who survived, arrived in California approximately a year after they began their journey, everyone was informed of how the Donner Party was forced to resort to cannibalism, kill their cattle and leave their children. America was in a buzz as the Donner Party destroyed the idealism of the myth of frontier idealism.
The Donner party went through many hardships on thier journey west. The tough winters and the ragid plain all played a role in the almost demise of the travelers. The party persevered by taking many sacrifices along the way. When all the food ran out they had to resort to cannibalism. parts were labeled so that family's would not eat thier kids or kids eat thier parents. Taking a cutoff was not the best idea but they persevered through it all.
The tale of the Donner party forever left a bad image in the heads of people in the 1800 trying to move west. The trip from east to west was advertised to be easy and the West full of opportunities. before the donner party there was many "short cuts" to the west. after the story was released these other trails were no longer traveled. also there was a time line on the trip to the west. if the winter came early and hard you would not be able to continue on your journey. the donner party didn't make it before the winter and many did not survive.
After some investigation, I have found out we can not post on each others comments as a thread. Please read through your classmates comments and then reflect on what you have read in one more comment.
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Christina wrote: "Word of a fresh start of a new life was spreading like wild fire through out America, and nobody wanted to miss this opportunity." I think her comment reflects an accurate depiction of what frontier idealism. She does a great job of providing evidence to describe frontier idealism.
Jack ball wrote " The though winters and raged plain all played a role in almost the demise of the travelers." I agree with this because most trails in the mountains were not very fit for horse and carriage. Also if you didn't make it before the winter started you would not be able to move forward. These two factors led to the death to almost half of the Donner party.
The California-bound families of the donner party were from Illinois and Iowa. The most prominent families were the two Donner families and the Reed family. Going West they took a little-used, supposedly shorter route called Hastings cuttoff. This route proved challenging, dangerous and delayed them very much. They suffered greatly in crossing the salt flats West of the Great Salt Lake. These families lost many people on the salt flats and later in the mountains which later would be named Donner pass. There great struggles and sacrafices are perfect examples of how the ideal world of the western united states where thought to be.
booby said: how the Donner party encoutered many problems on their journey to the west. Booby wrote a good paragraph on how they had multiple troubles during their walk. All in all the paragraph was very good and it had many good details on their journey and what they endured in the mountains.
steve said: that the frontier idealism was changed after the Donner party was later heard about. That the Donner party was ignorant. I totally agree with steve. Steve gave great details to support his comment. Steve had a great comment.
Steve said: "The Donner party was a very unique western expansion journey." This was a good opening sentence because Steve is drawing the reader into to what he is about to say and letting us know the journey was unique.
Jimbo said; "This route proved challenging, dangerous and delayed them very much. They suffered greatly in crossing the salt flats West of the Great Salt Lake."
The route he was referring to was the Hastings Cutoff. I like this sentence a lot because it supplies a lot of important details that other posts seemed to lack.
This is Sammys... The story of the Donner party changed the way Americans viewed the frontier. Before traveling to the frontier became popular people thought it would be an easy trip. Traveling for four months in a wagon, and sometimes by foot, all seemed to be minor sacrifices toward a new and better life. Unfortunately, the sacrifices that they made were far from minor. The Donner party made the choice to take Hastings cut off. Hastings cut off was said to shave off 400 miles, when really it added about 200. A trip that was supposed to take four months ended up taking about one year. Hastings cut off was a dangerous path, some areas weren’t even cleared of branches and stumps making travel by wagon very difficult. When they reached the mountains they stopped for the night. When they woke up there was about six feet of snow. They could not go on. They were stranded in the snowy mountains and forced to do many things just to stay alive. Many people went insane from lack of food. When they were finally saved by the third rescue attempt, 41 people had died. When they got to the frontier, they told their horrifying stories. This showed people that traveling to the frontier was far from ideal.
The Donner party was a huge tragedy during the time of westward expansion. James Reed made the bad decision of taking Hasting's cutoff not knowing that it had never been tested. Hastings advertised the cutoff as 400 miles shorter on easy terrain but it turned out to be the end of the Donner's. Many other people thought of the journey as safe and filled with oppurtunity just like hasting. The Reed's and the Donner's proved these thoughts to be wrong. When people learned of the deaths and experiences of the Donner party, they did not want to travel west anymore. The Donner's changed the way people felt about traveling to the new western land.
Joe said: "if the winter came early and hard you would not be able to continue on your journey".
The rough terrain mountain of the pass combined with the harsh rocky mountain winter that had come early would prove to be deadly to many westward bound pioneers. I agree with Joe's statement that if you were to try to pass the trail to late you will be stuck in the deep snow.
How did the story of the Donner Party help strike down the myth of Frontier idealism?In the mid 1800's Lansford Hastings reviled false knowledge about a short cut traveling to California, or West Ward Expansion. The Donner party along with other family's took this route to California trying to save time, only ending up backfiring as the family's suffered through winter months stuck in the mountains with scares food and even cannibalism. This horrible story of the Donner party traveled to the East and definitely made people think twice before traveling westward. The frontier was not very ideal traveling, there were many obstacles for people to pass and some did not want to take the risk. Although,soon after there was gold was discovered in California, and people all over traveled there to try and get rich quick.
Tyler said: "The Donner's changed the way people felt about traveling to the new western land. " I agree with this statement. People looked at the Donner's situation like it could happen to anyone on their voyage West.
In the 1840s, people viewed life in the West as easy. They thought that the travel over there was going to be easy. They thought that by moving there, their lives would be made easier. There were many myths about how the west would be the good life. The story of the Donner Party proved all of these myths of the west wrong. The Donner Party was determined to get to the west to create a new life for them as fast as they could so they decided to take Hastings Cutoff. They had to deal with many problems while going through Hastings Cutoff. Lansford Hastings had said that his trail was shorter but it really added an extra 200 miles. The Donner Party got stranded in the mountains. People started dying from the cold of winter. They had to climb up mountains and steep hills. Their oxen had trouble getting over the mountains and some even ran off. This caused them to have to travel by foot. It was very windy and they did not have a lot of food or water. People started getting very sick and dying. They didn’t have enough resources for food, water, and shelter.
The story of the Donner party changed the view of Western Expansion in many ways. The Donner party's experience made people who were going to make the travel out West to think twice. If any people from here on after the Donner Party's story was out every group would no longer be taking Hastings route. There would no longer be any cut-offs taken by anyone. Travelers started to pre pair for more harsh conditions even taking the normal route. The story of the Donner party changed peoples thoughts and decisions of moving west.
ReplyDeleteThe story of the Donner party struck down the myth of frontier idealism by their graphic story. The Donner party was a group of people that set out to go west and decided to take a short cut through the hasting cutoff. Most groups that past through had no problem however the Donner party did. They went through with no escort and wagon witch was not a very good idea. The Donner party ended up getting stuck in the mountains for four months from the end of fall to the beginning of March. While they were there they starved and they had to eat their own people when they died. This whole incident crushed the idea of idealism from going west.
ReplyDeleteThe story of the Donner Party help strike down the myth of Frontier Idealism by the fact that their journey did not turn out the way they planned. They wanted to move westward to live a better life, even though it would take them four months to get there. The Westward Expansion was supposed to have better land, gold, and help them live better lives. The Donner Party faced many hard times threw their journey west. The Donner Party had to take a long four months to get west, and there long four months turned into a yearlong journey. They decided to take a different rout called Hasting cutoff, which was not a smart plan because it added about two hundred miles onto there trip and they got stuck up in the mountains because of snow. It was a cold, they ran out of food and people were dying. As people who were alive would feed off the dead. Many people on the trip went insane. After a long year rescue parties came and got the Donner Party out, but many had not survived.
ReplyDeleteThe story of the Donner Party helped strike down the myth of Frontier Idealism. The Frontier Idealism was not ideal at all. It ended up being the worst mistake that they made. It was a rough terrain and a struggle. The so called short cut ended up being longer than the original route that they would have taken. They didn't pack enough food for the long trip considering they thought that it would be shorter. This was not ideal at all! ~ Taylor Gang ~
ReplyDeletethe Donner party was a very unique western expansion journey. They were ignorant enough to go the short cut route instead of the wrong one. The idea of western frontier idealism was shut down as soon as everyone heard about the Donner party. It did for a couple of ways. The myth of frontier idealism is like the perfect place to live. The donner party made it not like the perfect place at all. The donner party killed eachother had to live in harsh conditions and lived in freezing cold temperatures. The winters were cold and the summers were sizzling. That is why it was a bad desicion to live out west.
ReplyDeleteIn the dawn of April, 1946 the Donner Party ventured out of there hometown in Illinois to join the popular movement in the Westward Expansion. Word of a fresh start of a new life was spreading like wild fire through out America, and nobody wanted to miss this opportunity. The idea of packing everything up and moving your family to California was both bold and exhilarating, it seemed almost too good to be true. The story of the Donner Party helped strike down the myth of frontier idealism. Many had planned for this journey to be dangerous and risky, but no one could ever imagine the hardship the Donner Party had to endure to reach California. After a member of the Donner Party sent for help, newspapers published stories on the families stranded out in the Hastings Cutoff. When the few members of the party who survived, arrived in California approximately a year after they began their journey, everyone was informed of how the Donner Party was forced to resort to cannibalism, kill their cattle and leave their children. America was in a buzz as the Donner Party destroyed the idealism of the myth of frontier idealism.
ReplyDeleteThe Donner party went through many hardships on thier journey west. The tough winters and the ragid plain all played a role in the almost demise of the travelers. The party persevered by taking many sacrifices along the way. When all the food ran out they had to resort to cannibalism. parts were labeled so that family's would not eat thier kids or kids eat thier parents. Taking a cutoff was not the best idea but they persevered through it all.
ReplyDeleteThe tale of the Donner party forever left a bad image in the heads of people in the 1800 trying to move west. The trip from east to west was advertised to be easy and the West full of opportunities. before the donner party there was many "short cuts" to the west. after the story was released these other trails were no longer traveled. also there was a time line on the trip to the west. if the winter came early and hard you would not be able to continue on your journey. the donner party didn't make it before the winter and many did not survive.
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ReplyDeleteAfter some investigation, I have found out we can not post on each others comments as a thread. Please read through your classmates comments and then reflect on what you have read in one more comment.
Example:
Christina wrote: "Word of a fresh start of a new life was spreading like wild fire through out America, and nobody wanted to miss this opportunity."
I think her comment reflects an accurate depiction of what frontier idealism. She does a great job of providing evidence to describe frontier idealism.
Jack ball wrote " The though winters and raged plain all played a role in almost the demise of the travelers." I agree with this because most trails in the mountains were not very fit for horse and carriage. Also if you didn't make it before the winter started you would not be able to move forward. These two factors led to the death to almost half of the Donner party.
ReplyDeleteThe California-bound families of the donner party were from Illinois and Iowa. The most prominent families were the two Donner families and the Reed family. Going West they took a little-used, supposedly shorter route called Hastings cuttoff. This route proved challenging, dangerous and delayed them very much. They suffered greatly in crossing the salt flats West of the Great Salt Lake. These families lost many people on the salt flats and later in the mountains which later would be named Donner pass. There great struggles and sacrafices are perfect examples of how the ideal world of the western united states where thought to be.
ReplyDeletebooby said: how the Donner party encoutered many problems on their journey to the west. Booby wrote a good paragraph on how they had multiple troubles during their walk. All in all the paragraph was very good and it had many good details on their journey and what they endured in the mountains.
ReplyDeletesteve said: that the frontier idealism was changed after the Donner party was later heard about. That the Donner party was ignorant. I totally agree with steve. Steve gave great details to support his comment. Steve had a great comment.
ReplyDeleteSteve said: "The Donner party was a very unique western expansion journey." This was a good opening sentence because Steve is drawing the reader into to what he is about to say and letting us know the journey was unique.
ReplyDeleteJimbo said; "This route proved challenging, dangerous and delayed them very much. They suffered greatly in crossing the salt flats West of the Great Salt Lake."
ReplyDeleteThe route he was referring to was the Hastings Cutoff. I like this sentence a lot because it supplies a lot of important details that other posts seemed to lack.
This is Sammys...
ReplyDeleteThe story of the Donner party changed the way Americans viewed the frontier. Before traveling to the frontier became popular people thought it would be an easy trip. Traveling for four months in a wagon, and sometimes by foot, all seemed to be minor sacrifices toward a new and better life. Unfortunately, the sacrifices that they made were far from minor. The Donner party made the choice to take Hastings cut off. Hastings cut off was said to shave off 400 miles, when really it added about 200. A trip that was supposed to take four months ended up taking about one year. Hastings cut off was a dangerous path, some areas weren’t even cleared of branches and stumps making travel by wagon very difficult. When they reached the mountains they stopped for the night. When they woke up there was about six feet of snow. They could not go on. They were stranded in the snowy mountains and forced to do many things just to stay alive. Many people went insane from lack of food. When they were finally saved by the third rescue attempt, 41 people had died. When they got to the frontier, they told their horrifying stories. This showed people that traveling to the frontier was far from ideal.
The Donner party was a huge tragedy during the time of westward expansion. James Reed made the bad decision of taking Hasting's cutoff not knowing that it had never been tested. Hastings advertised the cutoff as 400 miles shorter on easy terrain but it turned out to be the end of the Donner's. Many other people thought of the journey as safe and filled with oppurtunity just like hasting. The Reed's and the Donner's proved these thoughts to be wrong. When people learned of the deaths and experiences of the Donner party, they did not want to travel west anymore. The Donner's changed the way people felt about traveling to the new western land.
ReplyDeleteJoe said: "if the winter came early and hard you would not be able to continue on your journey".
ReplyDeleteThe rough terrain mountain of the pass combined with the harsh rocky mountain winter that had come early would prove to be deadly to many westward bound pioneers. I agree with Joe's statement that if you were to try to pass the trail to late you will be stuck in the deep snow.
How did the story of the Donner Party help strike down the myth of Frontier idealism?In the mid 1800's Lansford Hastings reviled false knowledge about a short cut traveling to California, or West Ward Expansion. The Donner party along with other family's took this route to California trying to save time, only ending up backfiring as the family's suffered through winter months stuck in the mountains with scares food and even cannibalism. This horrible story of the Donner party traveled to the East and definitely made people think twice before traveling westward. The frontier was not very ideal traveling, there were many obstacles for people to pass and some did not want to take the risk. Although,soon after there was gold was discovered in California, and people all over traveled there to try and get rich quick.
ReplyDeleteannie 'yingying' cushing says;
ReplyDeletethe donner party was a very hard life 2 live n it wasnt easy 2 be. alot of people died and some people lived n wat they had 2 eat nasty food
Steven,
ReplyDeleteNice description of the myth of frontier idealism
Tyler said: "The Donner's changed the way people felt about traveling to the new western land. " I agree with this statement. People looked at the Donner's situation like it could happen to anyone on their voyage West.
ReplyDeleteIn the 1840s, people viewed life in the West as easy. They thought that the travel over there was going to be easy. They thought that by moving there, their lives would be made easier. There were many myths about how the west would be the good life. The story of the Donner Party proved all of these myths of the west wrong. The Donner Party was determined to get to the west to create a new life for them as fast as they could so they decided to take Hastings Cutoff. They had to deal with many problems while going through Hastings Cutoff. Lansford Hastings had said that his trail was shorter but it really added an extra 200 miles. The Donner Party got stranded in the mountains. People started dying from the cold of winter. They had to climb up mountains and steep hills. Their oxen had trouble getting over the mountains and some even ran off. This caused them to have to travel by foot. It was very windy and they did not have a lot of food or water. People started getting very sick and dying. They didn’t have enough resources for food, water, and shelter.
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